…by Marc Maron (see WTF Podcast Episode 161 – Joe Rogan).
What does it mean that “its ironic”?. . .Is that your excuse for not committing to your emotional reaction to it? Is an ironic disposition another form of cowardice?. . .in some situations, if you think you have ironic detachment, you are more depraved. . .because you are disingenuous, you are dishonest, your ironic detachment makes you half a person, makes you lack a self, makes you a coward. . .
-Marc Maron (transcription and, therefore, any errors are mine)
The Finch and Pea 
I should also point out that no one should listen to Rogan’s advice about working out and supplement regimens at the tail end of the show.